. >> susie: you know, tonight obviously in the debate president obama and governor romney will be talking about the job market do. you expect them to give any kind of plan to jolt the labor market and to get that unemployment rate down drastically? >> i think both candidates are likely to be somewhat vague in their discussion of proposals to great jobs. if i were asking the question, i think the one that i with like to hear answered most would be, what are you going to do about the approaching fiscal cliff if we go over the fiscal cliff, if we plunge over the highest bluff along the fiscal cliff, it's very likely the economy will fall into recession and the unemployment rate instead of being 8 at the end of next year will be above 9. so the first thing that any elected official needs to do in 2013 is prevent job losses by doing something about the fiscal cliff. >> susie: are you predicting a recession? >> no, we're not. we do think that in a crisis environment at the 11th hour, some sort of arrangement will be made that will delay the fiscal contraction that's on the books now. so that th